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1998-12-06

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kynson Dave Atkinson, Carlisle
cufconline Alastair Woodcock, Carlisle
dcumbrian Dave Burns, Sheffield
24sc Neal Black
swizz Mark Ward, Dorset
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The topic is: Carlisle United

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[cufconline] sorry bit late this morning!
kynson> I'm alive!!! Sorry for missing last week - the Toga Party was too
- much for me :-)
[cufconline] There was just me and Dave Burns
kynson> Aye, I read through your transcript and uploaded it to my site -
- thanks for the link above :)
[cufconline] It seems the mailing list has gone tits up :)
[cufconline] Although I'm still on it OK
kynson> I know - not much to say and lots of people saying it !-)
[cufconline] Chris McFarlane still seems to be on it - sent me a message
- this morning
kynson> Oh, has there been access problems?
[cufconline] My last message was only received by 93 people - 100 or more
- have gone missing :(
kynson> Ah - I haven't posted anything for a few days, so I didn't notice
- that. Strange.
[cufconline] Bad time for it to happen what with a new coach coming and
- everything...
kynson> Hmm, heard anything? There has been nothing on teletext about it.
kynson> Other than McCall being favourite
[cufconline] R Cumbria spoke to Radio Scotland reporter and she was of the
- opinion he would come
kynson> Well Clydebank lost yesterday, so maybe their morale is down with
- his impending departure.
[cufconline] Seemingly he has no money to spend at Clydebank - no change
- there if he comes to BP :)
kynson> Well at least we'll have a manager used to that situation who can,
- presumably, get the best out of the players he has.
[cufconline] He has done a good job at Clydebank, winning promotion last
- season I think
kynson> He seems to be highly regarded from all the reports from people.
[cufconline] Question is, will he get complete autonomy from you-know-who?
kynson> Is this Mike ON?
kynson> I don't know, hopefully with a proper manager installed, yes.
[cufconline] Clydebank's website suggests he may want to bring his
- assistants down with him
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[cufconline] Hi there DB!
[dcumbrian] Yo folks
kynson> That would be a good idea, then our two can concentrate on the kids
- again.
[dcumbrian] Sorry i'm late couldn't get a connection
[cufconline] Have you had problems with the mailing list, DB?
kynson> Hi Dave.
[dcumbrian] Only had two messages since wed
[cufconline] seemingly half the list have been kicked off by ISFA!
[dcumbrian] any reason?
[dcumbrian] I had just upgraded to netscape 4.5 and thought that might have
- had something to do with it
kynson> for email too?
[dcumbrian] No I use outlook express and IE4
[cufconline] Can't be just you, DB - Ian Forrester has just sent an email
- saying he's off it, too!
[dcumbrian] Started to test my e-mail by sending messages from honme and
- work - they arrived
kynson> I have just sent a test message to see if I am still on it and to
- check how many are on now.
[cufconline] At least 20 messages from the list since wed in my mailbox
[dcumbrian] Just requested my mail - nothing eceived
[cufconline] Perhaps ISFA are upgrading ?
kynson> I'm not sure how many I've had, but quite a few.
[dcumbrian] In that case do anyone know if Phil received my cheque
[cufconline] Did you see the news about Ian McCall, DB?
[cufconline] I sent mine last week
kynson> Yep, my mail has been refused by ISFA, I'll have to rejoin.
[dcumbrian] Has he agreed to come yet
[cufconline] Nothing confirmed
[dcumbrian] After late weeks game I decided that I would miss the Hartlepool
- game but if we have a manager ...
[cufconline] Hopefully he'll decide this week...
[cufconline] Could see a few of the missing thousands back on Sat
- (optimistic?)
[dcumbrian] I noticed Clydebank lost yesterday
kynson> I don't think we'll see many back until we win a few again.
[cufconline] DA was saying morale could be low up there
[dcumbrian] at Clydebank?
kynson> Aye
kynson> I just resubscribed to the list.
[cufconline] Let's hope they sort it out
[dcumbrian] They'll turn up for his first game to see what difference he
- makes
[dcumbrian] I'll subscribe at the end of this session
[cufconline] Think McGregor's due to return from injury - but Whitehead
- looks like he's out
kynson> The thing is that Carlisle always have a fickle following - I think
- it is part of being Cumbrian.
[cufconline] BTW what's the weather like in Sheff? Bloody brass monkey
- conditions up here
[dcumbrian] Saw speculation of getting Reeves and Hayward back
kynson> We just don't care too much about anything.
[cufconline] Just speculation I think...
kynson> Reeves back? I hope so and then my website would make sense again
- !-)
kynson> Then again, maybe not.
[dcumbrian] Weather bright and sunny, and heating full on
[cufconline] We might be seeing half the Clydebank squad coming here,
- according to Bankies fans
kynson> That wouldn't surprise me - managers do that quite frequently.
[cufconline] You could always 'relaunch' your site as 'Stevo misses again'
- ??
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kynson> 24sc?
[cufconline] Hello there!
[24sc] Type HEREgood morning
[dcumbrian] Hi 24sc is that first or second name
kynson> New kid on the block?
[24sc] third
[dcumbrian] ok mr 24sc
[24sc] NO THURSBY BLUE
kynson> Thursby Blue back again?
[cufconline] The return of the prodigal son...
[24sc] whats happening with the new coach
kynson> we were just talking about it - no confirmed news yet.
[cufconline] It broke down on the A66 :)
kynson> ha ha :)
[24sc] again
[cufconline] Seriously, nothing confirmed yet about Ian McCall
[dcumbrian] would McCall try to get Dobie back on loan (he went to the
- Bankies didn't he)
[24sc] do you think he will be any good
kynson> Hard to say - he has done well with limited resources up there
[dcumbrian] If he has any ideas then he's got to be better than what we have
[24sc] i hope he does fetch his number 2 with him  it keeps the two puppets
- away from the 1st team
kynson> I haven't seen any of the Clydebank team play.
[24sc] that chisolm bloke his assistant
[cufconline] Seem to be quite good considering lack of money
[dcumbrian] Do you watch many Scottish games Dave
kynson> No, only what is shown on Border TV
[cufconline] Not if I can help it :)
[cufconline] Used to watch Dunfermline, Cowdenbeath & Aberdeen when I was
- visiting relatives
[dcumbrian] Was always tempted to watch Berwick (only English team)
[24sc] once went to see medowbank against cowdenbeath
[cufconline] Cowdenbeath's ground - truly a dump!
[cufconline] Or at least 20-odd years ago it was
kynson> Actually, my sports watching is very limited - only Carlisle,
- England and Scotland for soccer and England and Scotland for Rugby.
[cufconline] I once watched England v Greece (1983 i think)
[cufconline] Wembley is a bit of a dump too
kynson> I have been to Murrayfield more times than Twickenham. The only time
- I was at Twickenham was for the Cumbria cup final appearance.
[24sc] any clues to knightons second choice as coach
kynson> McMahon was talked about?
[cufconline] CN said something about Archie Gemmill
kynson> Aye
[cufconline] I think John Ward would be a good second choice
kynson> Who?
[24sc] new floodlights on way for brunton park
[cufconline] John Ward - ex manager of Bristol City
kynson> Ah, thanks.
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[cufconline] Floodlights?
[24sc] bristol city
kynson> Maybe Knighton is hoping to blind the opposition!
[cufconline] I thought we had new ones on top of the East Stand?
[24sc] its the only way we can win a game
[cufconline] Yeah - that and the Pools Panel picking us for a home win
kynson> I think the plan was to replace the towers all the way around with
- the new Stand mounted ones - maybe they are doing that now.
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kynson> He's back!
[24sc] cardiff were not much better
[dcumbrian] Sorry connection was dropped and kept getting message
- 'Nick-In-Use'
kynson> Nick Turner?
[cufconline] Could be the case - I think it's safer than having towers
[dcumbrian] used the time to reljoin mailing list
kynson> Mind you, consdering the number of times players hit the sign on the
- Warwick Road end......
[24sc] anyone posted to the mailing list this weekend
[cufconline] There's been a bit of a problem...
[cufconline] Half the list seem to have been kicked off
kynson> This IML prblem has me thinking that maybe we should have an archive
- site for the mail, Kosh knows what I've missed.
[24sc] wonderd why i was not getting any
[cufconline] Here Dave - that IS (honestly) a thing I was thinking about
- this very week
[cufconline] I volunteer Phil Jones for the job
kynson> I think we should suggest it to Phil and try to thrash out a format.
kynson> Great minds.....
kynson> We could have a "thread per page" format.
[cufconline] Something like the Usenet format would work well
[cufconline] Maybe somebody could automate it somehow
kynson> Not sure how - but we can look at it.
[24sc] is the problem being sorted
[dcumbrian] Is the cufconline sponsored now 'in association news & star'
[cufconline] If I were you, try re-joining the list first - if you are not
- getting any mail from it
kynson> Don't know - I resubscribed to be on the safe side.
[cufconline] Cripes - the secret's out now!
[24sc] ok
kynson> There you go Al, no use hiding it now !-)
[cufconline] Officially there could be something in the News & Star tomorrow
[cufconline] It's a pretty informal arrangement at the moment
kynson> I must start buying these newspapers regularly.....
[dcumbrian] if there is then please scan and put on the site
kynson> I am reorganising my features section for the January upload, it has
- got messy again of late.
[cufconline] I would post something to the list - but I'll have to wait
- until they sort it out
[dcumbrian] sounds good as long as we don't get the small ads downloaded
- everyday
kynson> Hee hee :-)
[cufconline] There'll be none of that - hopefully just more and better news
- and match reports
[dcumbrian] sounds excellent!
kynson> Al and I were talking about the quality of coverage for clubs at
- lower levels
TO 24sc> Thanks Neal.
[cufconline] Seeing as the official CUFC site is non-existent....
[24sc] anyone looked at fromtheterrace web page
kynson> Not yet.
[dcumbrian] yeah got fed up waiting for it
[cufconline] Yes - it's C**P
[cufconline] CRAP!!
[24sc] they are looking for a journalist to cover carlisle
[cufconline] Not me - I am contractually obliged :)
kynson> A thankless task.
kynson> Rob Scott-Buccleuch would be an interesting choice, he is a mate of
- mine and does Hospital Radio commentaries

[cufconline] If they give him proper acknowledgement I suppose
[24sc] anyway got to go at least i can log on again back with netscape
- scrapped ie5 beta garbage i will be back next weekbye
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[cufconline] I am supposed to be a contributor to all manner of things - Its
- Up for Grabs Now being one site
kynson> Not heard of that one.
[cufconline] It won an award or something in Four Four Two magazine
[dcumbrian] Could you give a list of the various sites?
kynson> I have a hard enough job making time for everything at the moment -
- I have already given up on my Kristen Johnston site.
[cufconline] I also notice my site and yours are in a book - Football Fans
- Guide by Janet Williams
kynson> Really?
[cufconline] Just the addresses - on the CUFC page

[dcumbrian] Yeah, just so I know where to go without doing massive searches
kynson> It is always a bit weird how this new media can make you "famous".
[cufconline] Have you read the mailing list FAQ, DB? That lists the active
- CUFC sites
[cufconline] Yes - this time next year I could be a "minor celebrity" :)
[dcumbrian] Keep reading it but have a memory like a
kynson> I went to a new freeserve CUFC site this morning - awful background
- image made the text almost unreadable.
[dcumbrian] can't be a minor if you're over 21
[cufconline] How about saving it to your hard disk?
[dcumbrian] will do?
[cufconline] micro celebrity?
kynson> Al - I was wondering about a collaborative effort to make all the
- CUFC sites available on CD, what do you think?
[dcumbrian] You're both doing a great job
kynson> Thanks, mate :-)
[cufconline] Have you got CDR facilities ?
kynson> No, but I know a man who has ;-)
kynson> We could gear towards it being a Xmas present for next year....
[cufconline] How many would want it though ?
kynson> Actually, I must do some work on the squad section this month.
kynson> 4 or 5 probably :-)
[cufconline] Must have PC - but no modem
kynson> well, they could view it as a dial up saver.
[dcumbrian] Time for another cup of tea  and Kingstonians v Oient, see you
- next week
kynson> DC, any thoughts?
[dcumbrian] bye
[cufconline] He's off!
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kynson> We must have bored him :-)
[cufconline] Ah well - I think we have some more positive ideas to discuss
kynson> Aye, this chat room is certainly producing them :-)

kynson> I'll email Phil about the archive idea.
[cufconline] Dont forget to look in the News & Star!
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kynson> Swizz !-)
[cufconline] Oh crumbs - we're just about to leave!!
kynson> How are you Mark?
[swizz] Type mark ward
[cufconline] What time do you call this!!
[swizz] very good
[swizz] late
kynson> He must have had a heavy night !-)
[cufconline] Is Dorset in a different time zone now?
[swizz] any news
kynson> Ooh :)
[cufconline] Ummm - see the transcripts!
kynson> Well, we talked about McCall, but there is nothing definite yet.
[swizz] i hear
kynson> We also discussed the ISFA problems - have you been getting email?
[swizz] craig might be involved as well
[swizz] mail very patchy
kynson> I had to rejoin.
[cufconline] I was unaffected - about half the list got kicked off
[cufconline] Corrupted database maybe - power cut - server upgrade??
kynson> The transcript is usually up within an hour - this one will be up 10
- minutes after the session.
[swizz] when will we know for certain about mcall
[cufconline] I think by midweek - maybe even tomorrow afternoon
kynson> I would imagine midweek - to give time for him to meet the squad
- before Saturday.
[cufconline] I reckon he'll come - any other opinions?
kynson> I think so.
[swizz] i heard tommy craig may have some invovment
[cufconline] Possibly - but he's not connected to McCall in anyway AFAIK
[swizz] this came from a guy called tony bingley
kynson> Don't know him
[cufconline] Who is a director of the club I believe
kynson> Ah.
kynson> Was this in confidence?
[cufconline] Sorry - vice president
kynson> Anyway, lunch is calling.
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