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1998-12-13

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kynson Dave Atkinson, Carlisle
cufconline Alastair Woodcock, Carlisle
blueboat Luke Groom, Australia
nealb / nealboli Neal Black
cyprochris Chris McFarlane, Cyprus
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The topic is: Carlisle United
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kynson> I woke up this morning, I was feeling bad, too much to drink, more
- than I should have had....
[cufconline] hello again dave - a win at last !!
kynson> I've got the blues, I've got them real bad !-)
[cufconline] The chatroom jinx has been lifted at last ...
kynson> Aye, tell me about it !-)
[cufconline] No goals or points in league since it was launched - until
- yesterday
kynson> A good result, although giving them a penalty in the last minute was
- the sort of suicidal trick we've been doing lately.
kynson> Strange, I hadn't spotted that.
[cufconline] Apparently that ref has awarded three pens against us in his
- last three games
kynson> Hmm - suspicious. Rob's report said that Barr played well, but I
- thought that he was the weak player yesterday. Views?
[cufconline] He looked a bit rusty - agreed. I notice Rob thought Stevo got
- the first goal ?? eh??
kynson> It is funny, I was so convinced that nothing would come of it I
- watched it and paid no attention to detail. When the ball went in I just
- started jumping wildly and forgot to look at who had scored it !!
[cufconline] It was Searle - I must admit I wasn't looking when he first
- challenged the keeper
[cufconline] then I saw the ball balloon up and into the net!
kynson> Aye :-)  I had a good exchange of banter with some of the Hartlepool
- crowd during the gam,e. You probably heard me !-)
[cufconline] ppl around me were going on about monkey hangers - oh and they
- call Paterson "monkey boy"
[cufconline] I think due to his hairy arms/hands ...
kynson> The Monkey Hangers comment I understand, but was paterson at 'pool?
kynson> Ah.
kynson> The Monkey Hangers comment I understand, but was paterson at 'pool?
kynson> Ah.
[cufconline] I am sure the crowd figure for Cardiff was doctored
kynson> Hmm. the same was commented about yesterday. I think they include
- the season ticket holders whether they come or not. And some are staying
- away.
[cufconline] That could be the answer - but the Southend game had a smaller
- (official) crowd and I thought it was less than that
[cufconline] Maybe they moved the digits about - could it have been 2,070
- instead of 2,700 ?
kynson> With the average Grauniad production quality of the programme, I
- wouldn't be surprised. The stewards told me that they were expecting Pearson
- to get introduced to the crowd at half time. didn't happen though.
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[cufconline] Pearson apparently mulling over the offer..
kynson> Neal - trying to keep me on my toes with the transcripts again, eh
- ?-)
[Nealb] Good Morning
[cufconline] Were you at the game, Neal?
[Nealb] no missed yesterday were we any good
[cufconline] Great in the first half
[Nealb] whats the latest on pearson
kynson> I think that Beardsley is now a cert on a game to game basis and
- that that may be enough to persuade Pearson to come. Hopefully Wilkes and
- Halpin will be allowed to concentrate on bringing the youngsters through.
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[Nealb] i see at last he played couzens with anthony
kynson> And then there was Chris :-)
[cufconline] Pearson still lives in Sheff - quite a long way to come
- according to MK
[cufconline] Perhaps he's getting his excuses in early :)
kynson> Aye, but Wadsworth came further, didn't he?
[cyprochris] Hi Dave, Alastair, Neal
[cufconline] True - and Mervyn lived in Leeds
[cufconline] Hi there Cyprus Chris :)
[Nealb] Good morning chris
[cyprochris] Neal - did u win on the fixed odds?
[Nealb] no didnt get out yesterday
[Nealb] but i will let you no if i win
[cufconline] Should have had a tenner on the Blues yesterday ...
[cyprochris] I'm sweating on a foreign game tomorrow for about a 10/1 payout
- - anyway - back to CUFC
kynson> It was great to see the blues win again - you immediately forget all
- the defeats.
[cufconline] We were excellent for a 20-minute spell yesterday, Chris
[cyprochris] So I've heard - what was the difference?
[cufconline] Brilliant first goal by Searle ;)
kynson> Best of it was I left the house without my keys and had to wait for
- one of the lodgers to come home to let me in !-)
[cyprochris] lol - a bit jammy by all accounts
[Nealb] where do people get information that pearson didnt no how far it was
- to travel
[cufconline] Superb opportunism actually :)
[cyprochris] OK - that makrs it sound a lot better
kynson> Don't know - I think pearson said it to some reporter, or Knighton
- relayed it
[Nealb] what did couzens play like
[cyprochris] Searle was one of the better players until I went away - (last
- game awy to Mansfield(
kynson> Ok - there's only one Andy Couzens was the chant...
[cufconline] Couzens = erratic
kynson> His shorts were wild, to say the least
[cufconline] Had three shots - each one progressively further off target
kynson> Er, that should say shots....
[cyprochris] why were u looking at his shorts you bloody perve?
[cufconline] No - his socks were wild - well they kept slipping down :)
kynson> Hey, it's a free country.
[cyprochris] whatever lights yer candle marra
kynson> Actually, looking at how much tax we pay, maybe it isn't :-)
[cufconline] He literally has to pull his socks up!
[cyprochris] we actally pay 50% tax in England did u know?
kynson> NI and Tax together, yeah.
kynson> and VAt.
[cyprochris] Add on duty and VAT and you've got it spot on
[cufconline] Income+Council Tax+Nat Ins+VAT ??
kynson> Oh and don't forget all those donations to charity - and what has
- the govenment ever done for us ?-)
[cufconline] How is Cyprus price-wise??
[cyprochris] I'm a yid and get things 2nd hand - s'pose its what comes from
- being nearly Scottish
[cyprochris] Petrol 1/2 price, car tax £80 perr year - beer £1 a pint
kynson> Oops, someone just dropped 10p outside, back in a minute...
[cufconline] Ooh err - I'm a-coming to Cyprus - cheaper phone calls too I
- see
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[cyprochris] Loans over about £500 are 8%APR - cars are duty free
kynson> Wow
[cufconline] Do we have two Neals now ?
[cyprochris] oh yeah - peak local is about 20c (25p) per minute
kynson> expensive
[nealboli] no connection dropped could not log back on it said nick in use
[cyprochris] back to matters important - Couzens played well then?
kynson> He was OK
[cufconline] Better than normal I suppose
[cyprochris] Heard a fantastic 1 liner the other day - anyone interested?
[cufconline] Go on
kynson> As I said before, I thought Barr was the weak link yesterday,
- although Stevens had his poor moments.
[cyprochris] Women were talking about how this woman had a fantasti figure -
- which was true
[nealboli] whats happend to stevens this season
[cyprochris] One woman said - why can't my breats be big like that?
kynson> Don't know, Stevens just seems to be off the boil, maybe poorer
- service from midfield.
[cyprochris] Her hubby said - why don't you rub some andrex between them -
- it may take years but it works
[cyprochris] She said 'Why?'
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[cyprochris] he said ' It shoul do - it worked for your arse'
kynson> Ooh :L-)
[cufconline] LOL
[cyprochris] I was in stitches
kynson> Has anyone read the Mickey Mouse joke on my website ?
[cyprochris] i thought she was going to punch me
[cyprochris] probably as I've read most of yer site - but go on
[cufconline] Havent seen that one, DA
kynson> Ok, give me a minute....
[nealboli] if pearson dosnt come whos next in the frame
[cyprochris] Gemmill, McMahon, Ruud Gullit
kynson> Mickey Mouse went to see his lawyer about getting divorced from
- Minnie.
kynson> The lawyer asked why Mickey wanted a divorce
kynson> The lawyer thought about it for a while and checked the situation in
- his case histories before sitting
[cyprochris] Alastair - I believe Malcolm Fawcett is putting the Roman story
- in HTB
kynson> "I'm sorry Mickey, there is no way you can get a divorce from Minnie
- simply because she has buck teeth."
kynson> Exasperated Mickey jumped up and screamed "I didn't say she had buck
- teeth, I said she was fucking Goofy!"
[cyprochris] LOL:-)
[nealboli] ha ha
[cufconline] That story was on Dave's site BTW, Chris
[cyprochris] Yep - I'd forgotton the punchline though
kynson> What have the Michael Knighton ever done for us? I think Chris means
- the anonymous email about the roman soldier.
[nealboli] i have heard that beardsley isnt coming
[cufconline] Has anyone produced an amusing caption for the Knighton pic yet
- ?
[cyprochris] Alatair - were you talking about the MMstory or the Roman story
- on ROSA?
[cufconline] The "What has Knighton ever done for us" story , actually
kynson> I've had one I think, other than my own, still a couple of weeks
- though. I might email the list again, in case the orignal posting got lost
- in the downtime.
[cufconline] Taken from "Life of Brian"
[nealboli] has everyone rejoined the list
kynson> That was the most popular thing I ever put on the website :-)
[cyprochris] I read that that a couple of days ago - very funny - so Malcolm
- will have an exclusive then?
[cufconline] I sent a message to 90-odd addresses this week to try and let
- people know about the list problems
kynson> I think so, Chris.
[cyprochris] Who sent the latest message then - I sent one yesterday morning
- - anybody later than that?
[cufconline] Jeff Steel x 2 plus Les Strong
[cyprochris] ANybody on here sent anything in the last 24 hrs?
kynson> There is one in now from 10:18 this morning.  from Paul Watson.
[nealboli] just got one before about ten minutes ago from paul watson
[cufconline] Not me - the message I sent wasn't to the list - just to people
- who hadn't posted anything since the problem last week
[cyprochris] Was that the result of his poll?
kynson> Poll?
[cufconline] The great Couzens debate I think :)
[nealboli] the ref
[cyprochris] ALastair - how many did u manage to send?
[cufconline] I sent roughly 90 - a dozen or so bounced
[cyprochris] Any replies?
[cufconline] Bradley Mitton replied
[cufconline] How many received your last email Chris?
kynson> Ah Bradley - I know his brothers Alex and Sean.
[cyprochris] How long you giving it - about a week?
[cyprochris] 97 if I remember rightly
kynson> Alex sent me a very amusing little snowman animated gif. A bit rude,
- but amusing
[nealboli] got to go got visitors bye
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[cufconline] Phil said he hoped people would realise they had got kicked off
- and would re-subscribe
kynson> Clears out some of the dead addresses I suppose.
[cyprochris] I still think we should ask all members to e-mail anybody they
- know on the list as mentioned earlier this week
[cufconline] But I imagine non-working addresses are purged normally
kynson> Aye, but most of the ones I email know already.
[cyprochris] But what of the ones they know?
[cufconline] I went back a year and picked up all the addresses I could find
- plus some others I have ..
kynson> I meant the ones who eren't that bothered but hadn't got around to
- unsubscribing
kynson> Good point though Chris - I'll have a look through.
[cyprochris] Why not post a message on the list asking everybody to mail u
[cufconline] Half the list never send anything - just use it as a news
- service I guess
[cyprochris] But surely asking for a mail to somebody with the message 'OK'
- is not too much to ask.
kynson> Actually, I have had a little feedback on the chat transcripts, so
- some people are reading them.
[cufconline] No - if they all reply to a private address we can maybe work
- out who's still on
[cyprochris] We could also do similar on local cumbria or whatever that ng
- is.  ALo div 1-2-3 etc
kynson> Good idea.
kynson> I'll do the newsgroups.
[cufconline] OTOH - if the list is that important to ppl they will naturally
- want to get back on it
[cyprochris] I have hours to spare and its cheap over here - I would love to
- help you lot out in some small way - I volunteer
[cyprochris] OTOH?
kynson> On the other hand
[cyprochris] SFBASAFOTLA!
[cufconline] Post a message asking for confirmation that they are on the
- list - replies to your address only
[cyprochris] yes - I will do that
[cufconline] SFBASAFOTLA - thats got me stumped!
kynson> SFBASAFOTLA ??
[cyprochris] sorry for being as thick as fuck on those lettered
- abbreviations!
kynson> Ahah !-)     OK, I'll knock up a posting to the div3 and cumbria
- newsgroups.
[cufconline] Wonder how many are participating in uk.local.cumbria ?? Maybe
- 100 or so
[cyprochris] Shit - I've got a footie match in 10 mins - must go - I'll read
- the transcripts.  I'll e-mail all those on your site
[cufconline] See ya Chris
kynson> I've only posted a couple of times, but there is a fair number of
- threads on the go there.
kynson> See you Chris.
[cyprochris] Can u both put a hyperlink on your sites to my e-mail address
- too?
kynson> Aye, sure.
[cufconline] Yes - on my mailing list page
kynson> I wonder if there will be any post 12:00 arrivals this week?
[cufconline] Waiting for Mr Sleepy in Dorset ;)
[cyprochris] I' give it a week or o and then I'll ask all who reply to send
- an e-mail to all those who haven't replied who they know etc - and hopefully
- by Xmas we might get somewhere.  What is the address on your site of that
- page with all the names on?
[cufconline] http://www.cufconline.org.uk/cufclist.htm
kynson> I'll put an announcement on my RIOA index page.
[cufconline] I'll add a few names to that list - I know the odd person who's
- not on it
[cyprochris] cheers guys - i'll update you as to my progress. Tata
kynson> seeya
[cufconline] Bye Chris
kynson> Have you a caption for the Knighton pic, Al?
[cufconline] I think I emailed a few ideas with the pic itself
kynson> Ah - I'll have to go back the email. I was at our works Xmas do with
- lodger/mate Alan last night and we went as "the Men in Black". It was a good
- laugh !-)
[cufconline] I take it Alan is not online
kynson> Only through my computer.
[cufconline] Not Alan Adams is it??
kynson> Yes it is Alan Adams. He has chipped in a £5 for the shirt
- sponsorship and is in the fantasy prediction league.
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[cufconline] That explains why he never posts anything then
kynson> Are you still here Chris, or is it a ghost connection?
kynson> Hi Luke.
[cufconline] Is that another ghost or is it Luke?
[blueboat] late as per usual
[blueboat] Its me alright - latest on Beardo?
kynson> May be coming on a game to game basis.
[blueboat] as player only
[cufconline] Knighton seems pretty confident he'll come
[cufconline] Yep as a player
kynson> Yes, player only.
[blueboat] Pearson or McCall to manage (?)
[cufconline] Pearson decision expected Monday also
kynson> It was a good result yesterday, everyone playing for their places in
- case Pearson comes, I think.
[cufconline] McCall may not have been offered job - accoding to MK
[blueboat] btw, saw some Carlisle United fans at the Adelaide test on friday
kynson> Really ?!
[cufconline] They get everywhere don't they?
[blueboat] well, a flag at least - no-one owned up to supporting the
- cumbrians
kynson> Hey in the Babylon 5 newsgroup they have "sad actor" spots, maybe we
- should have "sad CUFC fan" spots !-)
[blueboat] is there any other type of CUFC fan?
kynson> Ys, after yesterday !
[cufconline] Hello my name is Alastair and I am a Carlisle United fan ...
kynson> I have been one for 24 years.....
[cufconline] I need help
kynson> a lot of help
[blueboat] yeah, nice result actually - gainst the monkey hangers
[cufconline] Did you read the News & Star article BTW ??
kynson> I had to explain that to two kids next to me.
kynson> No?
[cufconline] It's on the site - follow the link from the News & Star banner
- on the home page
kynson> OK.
[blueboat] I had some bloke from hartlepool explain it to me once
[cufconline] I think it might be a bit of an urban myth that one...
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[blueboat] wasn't it some french shipwrech survivor?
kynson> Still, at least their nickname is true, it's not like we _really_
- shag sheep.........
[cufconline] Well speak for yourself ;)
[blueboat] lol
kynson> Napoleonic war, French ship sinks off Hartlepool, only survuivor is
- pet monkey, peole hang it thinking that it is a Frenchman.
[cufconline] Yeah - but I'd like to see historical proof
[blueboat] what's in the N&S article?
kynson> Nothing like thefeel of real wool next to the skin
[blueboat] ah, that's right - this bloke from pool was trying to explain how
- they got it wrong - he said they weren't all that thick, it's just it was
- dark
kynson> My other lodger (Irish Kevin) is playing on his playstation.
[cufconline] The article "launched" my partnership with the News & Star
kynson> Ah yes, I read that in the ENS.
[blueboat] ah-hah, I saw the banner on the site...
kynson> Alastair, I'l be tidying up the links on my site and will make a
- special note of the added news service.
[blueboat] Is the list fixed yet? my last post only went to 103
[cufconline] Thanks - they say I'll get emailed match reports eventually -
- before publication
[cufconline] Re - list. Chris McFarlane has volunteered to try and trace
- missing members
kynson> We were talking about it before, I am posting notes to
- uk.local.cumbria and the div3 group and Chris is going to email "lost"
- members.
[cufconline] I sent a mass email to 90 or so this week - we'll see what
- happens
[blueboat] I still can't find uk.local.cumbria on my server
[cufconline] Have you tried a refresh groups command ?
[blueboat] yeah, about 8-10 days ago
kynson> That's good news Al, Also, how are you off for webspace now with the
- virtual site? Plenty of space for pictures now? I have 15 Mb with Demon
- these days, so if you need extra storage space, the offer is still there.
kynson> Luke - try linking in to the demon news server, it might just be
- your news server.
[blueboat] 15Mb, wow - I've only got half
[blueboat] OK
[cufconline] Pipex just pushed up the limit to 15mb - plus 11mb on XOOM = 26
- mb total
[cufconline] They're literally giving away webspace these days - 15mb for
- nothing on Freeserve
kynson> I am setting my brother up with a freeserve account this Xmas, so
- there is another 5Mb there as well.
kynson> 15 MB?
[cufconline] Yes according to ppl on freeserve.help.webspace
kynson> Wow, that will be 30 Mb then. He won't use it so I can use it for
- overflow if I need to.
[cufconline] There was an offer of 50mb free with .net magazine 50th issue -
- I bought that actually
kynson> ** gag **
kynson> Sorry, just choked on a bacon sarnie then.....
[cufconline] I've only used >3mb anyway
[blueboat] how many in the chatroom today then?
kynson> I am up to 4.5Mb, but there are non-CUFC bits to my site as well.
[cufconline] Hmmm - six ??
kynson> Erm, 6?
[cufconline] Me/Dave/Chris/Neal/Luke - no five
kynson> Aye, no Mark from Dorset yet.
kynson> Or Linsey.
[cufconline] I think she must have been running up her parents phone bill :)
[blueboat] I'll set an alarm for next week - 9:30pm Adelaide time creeps up
- on me every week
kynson> hee-hee - she'll probably read that on the transcript !-)
[cufconline] I see England had another nightmare in the cricket, Luke
kynson> 21:30 ?
[blueboat] yep, yout tail is crap...
kynson> I don't follow cricket - it bores me to distraction.
[cufconline] I've always been a fan - a bit like following CUFC really
[cufconline] You get used to losing :)
kynson> Aye - we keep losing.
[blueboat] bloked asked mulally what his average was today - he put the end
- of his thumb and index finger together, big laugh from crowd
[cufconline] If we get a draw out of this test, it'll be a miracle
[blueboat] bloked (?) bloke
kynson> Alastair - are you going to Buskers on Xmas Eve? it is open from
- 13:00 and we are going in for about 17:00 if you fancy joing us for a while.
[blueboat] rain again perhaps though
[blueboat] I saw a meatloaf tribute band at buskers once
[cufconline] Buskers - think I'm away in Leeds that day actually
kynson> I saw Fish (from Marillion) in the Page once.
kynson> On Xmas eve ?
[cufconline] Visiting my sister then returning New Years Day as it happens
[blueboat] either of you two know Ray or Les Floyd
[cufconline] Never 'eard of em
[cufconline] Anyway I'm off to get something to eat
[blueboat] Les is a Front page regular - never mind - they live in Corby
- Hill
[blueboat] ta-ra!
[cufconline] See you all next week hopefully ...
kynson> No, don't know either by name.
[blueboat] alarm is set
kynson> Bye Luke.
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kynson> Bye Al, I meant to say, still here Luke?
[blueboat] yep
[blueboat] ok others I know from Carlisle, hmmm... Kath van Tilburg?
kynson> Not a bad turnout today, almost as much as Brunton Park :-)
[blueboat] what was the attendance?
kynson> Kath? maybe - I know a few Kaths (or caths) but not many by surname.
kynson> 3025
[blueboat] She studies in Wolverhampton during term, but her folks live on
- Chiswick Street
kynson> I've been in Carlisle 9 years in March, so I know a few people now,
- but not all their surnames.
kynson> Most of the people I know are 25 - 40
[blueboat] where are you from originally?
[blueboat] Kath's about 22 - she can act about 16 though
kynson> Keswick, then Manchester, Birmingham, Coventry, Burnley and Carlisle
kynson> Ooh - do you want that bit censored ?-)
kynson> Actually, I was born on Whinlatter Pass and lived  there until I was
- 10 when we moved down to Keswick.
[blueboat] nah, I don't even think she follows CUFC - she's a black country
- gal
[blueboat] Whintlatter pass?  Don't know it
kynson> West of Keswick, at Braithwaite go up and over to Lorton and
- Cockermouth - that is Whinlatter Pass
[blueboat] Ah, never got that far west
kynson> I loved it up there as a kid, nice big house, big garden and a whole
- forest to play in !
kynson> Whereabouts in carlisle are you from, then?
[blueboat] sounds lovely - planning a return to Cumbria in 2000 hopefully
kynson> Permanently?
[blueboat] nah, I was born in Adelaide, but my Grandmother is from Kendal
- and I worked for a year in Patterdale
kynson> Ah, sorry, I thought you were from Carlisle.
[blueboat] I'd love it to be permanent, but my girlfriend probably wouldn't
- - although she'd like the climate
kynson> I love winter - I am not a summer person, which makes it all the
- weirder that I liked Ibiza. Then again, didn't see much of the sun.......
[blueboat] Had a nice (?) cumbrian accent when I got home
kynson> Strange, I don't really have a Cumbrian accent, it is only vaguely
- North Western. People often think I am from Manchester.
[blueboat] It was 39 here yesterday, a lot of my goldfish died - just too
- hot for them
kynson> Yowch. Not for me.
[blueboat] I get asked by English gals in pubs here which part of the UK I'm
- from
kynson> It is strange - not many people can recognise a cumbrian accent
[blueboat] Adelaide accent is quite plum in mouth by comparison to Melb, Syd
- or Brisbane - but is definitely not Cumbrian
kynson> I remember a funny moment during Freshers Week at Uni when I said to
- my new flatmates that I could spot a Cumbrian by appearance only and
- promptly did so - she was from Kendal.
[blueboat] Isn't The Fast Show done by Cumbrians?
kynson> Is it? Not heard anything to that effect.
[blueboat] Was it the tufts of wool in her fingertips that gave it away,
- ha-ha!
kynson> Be interesting if it is.
kynson> Ooh - no it was that strangely gaunt and bored expression that we
- have when we are relaxed.
[blueboat] I think one of them has a Cumbrian accent - or he's taking the
- piss
kynson> I've not watched it, sorry.
[blueboat] It's worth a look, the odd football joke too
kynson> I'll try and catch it sometime. Anyway, I think I had better get off
- the 'phone and let lodger/mate Alan use it. catch you next week, mate :-)
[blueboat] seeya
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