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1999-02-21

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The topic is: Carlisle United
kynson> Morning Chris.
kynson> Well, afternoon to you :-)
kynson> Was there a commentary session yesterday, then?
[Cyprochris] And a big hello form the trouble maker :-(
[Cyprochris] It turned into a chat - it was ok
kynson> aha, there you are.
[Cyprochris] Still no new computer mind
kynson> trouble maker?
kynson> Oh, the list flame war.
[Cyprochris] You've not been following the thread then?
kynson> I think a lot of the list stuff would be better off moving into
- uk.local.cumbria.
kynson> Rob and I were discussing the "jocks" taunt scenario witht he Chief
- Steward at the match yesterday
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kynson> Hi al.
[Cyprochris] Yep, the one that Rob started would probably be better there,
- but did you follow the posting sent by Martin Horne and Grahem Elliot?
[Cyprochris] Morning Al
[kynson] a little bit.....
cufconline> Hi there - chat seems to be working again today!
[Cyprochris] I think Martin has a bit of a defensive complex
[kynson] Aye, I just couldn't get in last week
cufconline> Some got in though - I got an error saying applet wasn't running
TO Cyprochris> Chris, does that message above say "Good afternoon" ?
[kynson] I think the comment about excessive emails (from Paul?) wasn't
- needed, you need to pst points separately to keep the threads logical.
[kynson] Bedlington Terriers 1-0 Workington Reds  (in extra time).   Reds
- now out of the FA Vase.
cufconline> Who is this Matthew Richards then? Is he actually from
- Whitehaven as I assumed, or from Preston?
[kynson] Not sure, a newbie I think
cufconline> I entered his quiz and he never posted the answers
[kynson] I think it is time to post the FAQ again..... Al ?-)
cufconline> Mind you, he got some of the questions a bit muddled
cufconline> He must have missed it, judging by the fact that he has emailed
- me privately about getting on the list
[kynson] What is the state of play for the cufcisc mag?
[kynson] I haven't heard from Phil about it.
cufconline> I haven't heard anything either
[kynson] Did you see the write up in "Hit the Bar" about the chat room match
- commentaries?
cufconline> Damn - I forgot to buy a copy yesterday!
[kynson] It was quite complimentary and Malcolm mentioned the penalty
- shhot-out without mentioning my cock-up!
cufconline> Very generous of him. Apparently Lacey is demanding a dressing
- room with his name on it at Radio Cumbria
[kynson] I noticed in the programme that they still haven't sorted the shirt
- sponsorship, either.
cufconline> No - looks like we've all wasted a fiver - perhaps we can keep
- it until next season
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[kynson] Lacey? I wonder what his view of our relaying his commentary is :-)
cufconline> As I said on the list, R Cumbria bloke rang me and said it was
- OK and even Real Audio would probably be OK unless you advertised
[kynson] It is interesting to note that Demon Internet have announced an
- upcoming upgrade of the Homepages service, which already has Real Audio.
- They haven't said what the improvements are to be, but I suggested the
- addition of a 50 user chat room !-)
[kynson] At the moment, though, I think we will be struggling to break the
- 25 user limit!
cufconline> Good idea - however chat might eat a lot of bandwidth and server
- resources ?
cufconline> I still think I could open up a second chat room for big
- occasions. I had two rooms registered (accidentally) at first and deleted
- one from XOOM
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[kynson] depends how many use it. The thing is that Demon can offer all
- these services, it will attract customers, but how many will then use them,
- and for how long per day?
cufconline> Pipex users are getting uppity in pipex.dialup - moaning about
- lack of support and service for £15 a month etc etc
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cufconline> Chris - is your machine playing up again??
[kynson] Aye, it will suffice I would imagine. It is a shame that the Reds
- went out yesterday, Rob and I were planning to do a commentary from Wembley
- with Rob doing Hospital Radio and me typing in to the chat rrom.
[Cyprochris] Sort of - it was my fault.  I was trying to print somat out at
- the same time and it took aso loong i cancelled it  Then i was catching up
- on the conversation so it kicked me out
[PRIVATE FROM Cyprochris] Yes, it says afternnon, its 1.20 pm here
cufconline> That had occurred to me - if we could have got enough Reds fans
- interested . Possibly via uk.local.cumbria. Still, the dream is over now -
- shame
[kynson] Nigel Pearson: "We should be beating sides like Mansfield and we
- should have scored in the second half when we created enough chances. Ian
- Stevens is as disappointed as anyone else, but we win, lose or draw as a
- team. Before the match I asked for a clean sheet and a win - I got one of
- them, but not the other.
[PRIVATE FROM Cyprochris] Eatern Europe time
[kynson] Sunday Sun Verdict : Carlisle battled hard to keep a clean sheet
- and had their chances to score.
TO Cyprochris> Good - that proves my little javascript applet works then :)
[kynson] Oh my Kosh, it is hailing outside!
cufconline> It just stopped
[kynson] no, still going here.
[kynson] you must be east of me, al.
cufconline> Stopped here in Denton Holme now raining
[kynson] sleet now.
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[kynson] rain now.
[kynson] and speak of the devil!
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[paulclements] eh ?
[paulclements] is matthew richards in here ????
[kynson] Nigel Pearson: "We should be beating sides like Mansfield and we
- should have scored in the second half when we created enough chances. Ian
- Stevens is as disappointed as anyone else, but we win, lose or draw as a
- team. Before the match I asked for a clean sheet and a win - I got one of
- them, but not the other.
[Cyprochris] Calm down Paul LOL
cufconline> Overcast in all directions - I just looked out of my window
[Cyprochris] No hes not
[kynson] It is pretty grotty today :-(
[paulclements] am I the only person he is pissing off
[Cyprochris] We have a few clouds, but outnumered severely by blue stuff
[kynson] I was saying to al that a re-posting of the faq was in order.
[paulclements] why
[Cyprochris] Nope, hes pissing me off too.  The other thing is people have
- blamed ME for intigating it, privately as well
[kynson] go on, rub it in chris :-(
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cufconline> FAQ lays down few ground rules for posting nettiquette and he's
- already broken a few
[kynson] well, there you go then :-)
[paulclements] i almost fell off mu chair when i read is reply to me
- yesterday......
[paulclements] mu = my
[Cyprochris] Sorry Dave, did i go too far then
[paulclements] is = his
[paulclements] i then saw him having a go at Baz Mossop
[kynson] chris, I was referring to the weather there, not the posting
- debacle.
cufconline> yeah - Bloody freeserve user :)
[kynson] ooh
[paulclements] ah
[Cyprochris] Your post had a few good points in it Paul, but tthe one about
- having 1 post with several point in it sometimes doesn't work if its about 3
- or 4 different threads
[Cyprochris] I just realised that Dave - silly me
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[paulclements] maybe....but i think 52 emails in one day is a joke
[kynson] that may be a point, we've had platform wars, OS wars and are we
- now facing up to the arrival of ISP wars?
[Cyprochris] How many of those were stat mail though?
[paulclements] its worse than a virus hoax
cufconline> I got 69 - I didnt log on for two days and most of it was
- anchored around MR and his rantings
[paulclements] all 52 were cufc mailing list
[Cyprochris] Can I make a suggestion?  (Too scared to come out with it in
- case I get accused of making trouble)
[paulclements] about 10 were 1 sentence (badly spelt) emails from our pal
- mat....
[Cyprochris] Most of those could have been sent privately too
[kynson] It is probably the price we will have to pay for having the IML.
- Certainly, if people snipped their emails properly then it wouldn't be as
- painful to download the IML mail.
[paulclements] the amount of petty shite on the list has gone up big time in
- the last couple of weeks.....
cufconline> Phil can throw people off if he doesnt like them - did you see
- the ISFA footer messages?
[kynson] Good point Chris, certainly if a mail is directed at one or two
- people, then it should be sent privately.
[Cyprochris] True.  I have just realised my suggestion would be crap.  I was
- going to say not to use stat mail as there is a brilliant site for those
- stats
[kynson] I think ejecting people should be a last resort, a quiet talking
- too may suffice
[paulclements] does anybody know matthew....how old is he...he sounds about
- 12
[Cyprochris] But div3 stat mail is only about 6 per week,  I get all div 1 2
- and pl stuff, so i shall shut my big mouth
[kynson] I have no info on matthew.
[Cyprochris] Only thing is there is nothing to stop them coming back on with
- a different mailing address via hotmail, bigfoot or similar, so in the long
- run, they would
[kynson] al, what is the current version number for the IML faq?
[paulclements] aye
[Cyprochris] prob come back and we would be back to square 1, as a radio
- commentator once said
[kynson] :-)
cufconline> Version 1.3
[paulclements] but he would be easy to spot him if his attitude remained the
- same....
[Cyprochris] true.
cufconline> Last posted to list on 4/2/1999
[kynson] i'll have a look and try to "beef" up the netiquette section. maybe
- you could post that alone as a timely reminder.
[paulclements] if he gives me any more crap i am going to say something I'll
- probably regret....but i'll do it direct to him and not via the list........
[kynson] thunder!
cufconline> Just look for postings in capital letters
cufconline> I heard that too, Dave!
[kynson] it sounded a bit away, though
cufconline> Unseasonal in February, surely !
cufconline> Sun's out!
[Cyprochris] I heard it too, must have been a big one to hear it 2000 miles
- away
[kynson] yep. hey, global warming and all that......
cufconline> Perhaps it was your mate Saddam :)
[Cyprochris] did u know, the last ice age , the globe only wramed by 3
- degrees
[kynson] saddam hussein == he's mad, usa in  !-)
[paulclements] has anybody else heard about the Peter Clark/Aberdeen story I
- posted......
[Cyprochris] Nice one, have you got that anagram software
[Cyprochris] nope
cufconline> Got to visit that anagram server again, I think :)
[kynson] no, i remember it from the papers a coouple of years ago.
cufconline> Clarky signed a 2.5 year deal with us, actually
[Cyprochris] Is there a website that does anagrams for free?
cufconline> Story on my news page
[kynson] I'll have to add clark and reid to the squad pages.
[paulclements] i see that hull and borough won......oooppss !!!
[Cyprochris] Your news page al, was it updated yeterday - i
[kynson] have you got photos of clark and reid, al? maybe there are some in
- recent programmes
[Cyprochris] hartlepool too i believe
[paulclements] ooerr
[kynson] v
[kynson] 21.     Carlisle played 31, Points 35
[kynson] 24.  Scarboro played 31, Points 27
[kynson] 6.      Halifax  played 31, Points 47
[paulclements] bloomin reds lost 0-1 at Bedlington (AET).....feck
[kynson] in other words, the division is still pretty tight.
[Cyprochris] 3 automatic and 4 play off, what about pos 7
kynson] hang on...
[kynson] 7.      Orient played 30, Points 47
[PRIVATE FROM Cyprochris] I think theres a fault on your site Al, it hasn't
- updated and keeps giving me an alert, something about'Javascript doesn't
- understand command"fullyear"' or somat
[Cyprochris] 12 points 2 months, surely impossible, unless its newcastle
- under keegan (how the hell did he get that job?)
[kynson] keegan and dalglish. bith good at managing...... clubs with a lot
- of money to spend...
[Cyprochris] absolutely
[kynson] remember when we stuffed fulham at bp last season?
[Cyprochris] keegan will make a balls of the england job as he has to make
- do with not too good players compared to other teams
[kynson] "where's yer millions gone, mr al fayed?
TO Cyprochris> That would be my home page - I added a date display in
- Javascript - works on mine, IE4 and NN4. May have to remove it
[paulclements] England 0 Chelsea/Arsenal XI 2....laugh ?....I nearly choked
- on my tears of joy
[Cyprochris] exactly my point.  Keegan + money was beaten my MK + **** all
[Cyprochris] we all know what a tactical genius MK is
[PRIVATE FROM Cyprochris] I use NN$ and I tried 3 times, no joy!
[PRIVATE FROM Cyprochris] NN4 sorry
[kynson] i think the only point that keegan has going for him is that
- players like working with him.
TO Cyprochris> http://www.AnagramGenius.com/ for the anagrams, Chris. Cant
- understand it not working in NN4 though
[Cyprochris] My grandma liked working with Mr Maxwell and his pensions, lokk
- what 'appened
[paulclements] good crowd yesterday 2,200.......
[paulclements] rushden & diamonds probably got more
[PRIVATE FROM Cyprochris] Is that site not just an ad for some software with
- a few examples to make it look juicy?  I tried 3 times on NN and it did not
- like it at all
TO Cyprochris> The 'FullYear' is a new-ish Javascript command to make dates
- Y2K-compatible, maybe not supported in 4.0 version
[kynson] Bradley Mitton has posted to the IML about the "exchanges" this
- week. Les Strong replied with a one line "well said" answer and didn't snip
- _any_ of bradley's post !-(
[Cyprochris] Its interestin (actually its not) to note the crowds at Rushden
- when Northampton/OPeterboro are at home.  Methinks Peterboro are losing folk
- to Rushden, only half an hor to Petrboro and Nhampton from there
[paulclements] whats the point of an email that says "well said"......:-(
TO Cyprochris> I got a page load of Michael Knighton anagrams from that site
- - delivered via email
[kynson] aye :-(
[paulclements] chris your speeeling is getting worse....
[kynson] or his typing .....
cufconline> Lets hope we don't start losing fans to Workington Reds :(
[paulclements] aye
[Cyprochris] Paul - its cos im tyoing fast - steam off my fingers etc
[Cyprochris] Martin Horne will complain about my speeling
[paulclements] might have if they'd got to wemberlee...but they lost
[kynson] steamy fingers - sounds like an interesting oriental meal !-)
[Cyprochris] How do the lower divs work in Cumbria.
[kynson] blind antelope
[paulclements] Chris...I think you and martin should kiss and make
- up...........
[kynson] no idea
cufconline> Which divs - the local leagues?
[Cyprochris] I rtried, but he sent me mailings for a week about how he
- disagreed with my tone over several weeks - he must have kept my mailings
- specially, makes me feel a bit weird, my personal stalker
[Cyprochris] NW trains - Conference?
cufconline> Doesn't Martin work at the Sands Centre?
[paulclements] carlisle & district
[Cyprochris] Would they go to the Unibond?
[paulclements] who
[Cyprochris] The Reds?
[kynson] Back on to the IML netiquette, I don't think _all_ one line emails
- are a problem, just the I agree/disagree kind. It is the lack of snipping in
- postings that really gets my oat.
[paulclements] reds are in the nw trains...if they won that they would go
- into npl 1...then npl....then conference
[kynson] er,   my goat.
cufconline> NPL = Unibond BTW
[Cyprochris] Thanks Paul
[paulclements] ok
cufconline> It used to be Les Wassock who kept on doing 1 liners and leaving
- all the ISFA footers in...
[kynson] aye, he's the one who posted to bradley's this morning
[paulclements] carlisle are in d3...if they get relegated they would go
- straight in to carlise & district d2.....
[Cyprochris] Sorry for going on Dave.  I agree with your point about
- snipping.  What would happen if the Reds topped the Unibond and the bottom 4
- or 5 teams in the Conference were all from the DM league?
[kynson] dunno
[paulclements] they would go up...the other leagues would do a bit of
- shuffling about
[Cyprochris] Paul - no, they would go into the conference
[paulclements] eh
[paulclements] thats what I said....
[paulclements] who
[Cyprochris] Your post said if Carlisle were relegated they would go into
- the Carlisle & District div 2!?!?!
[kynson] as i have said before, my main fear that in a couple of years the
- football league will do a major shake up in cahoots with the premier league
- and we will end up with 2 top flight divisions of 14 or 16 teams, and then
- two northern and two southern divisions made up of the rest and the
- conference.
cufconline> I think only 3 get relegated from Conference anyway
[paulclements] oh aye
[paulclements] I just got that 2 word email from les.....what a bloody waste
- of time and net space.......
[Cyprochris] So in theory, the doc martens leagure could have clubs further
- north than the unibond
[paulclements] aye
[Cyprochris] He has not posted for ages
cufconline> I noticed that the FA Cup wasn't regionalised this year - in
- first two rounds. Perhaps the regional thing is being scrapped?
[Cyprochris] I thought it was, can you give examples?
[paulclements] didn't we lose to the chimp chokers
[Cyprochris] Thats pretty regional surely!!!!!
[paulclements] aye
cufconline> Fulham v Leigh RMI
[paulclements] good one
cufconline> Not very regional that one - nor Bedlington v Colchester
[paulclements] even better
cufconline> I don't know when that decision was taken, though
[Cyprochris] The regionalisation did not include the non-league teams IIRC
[paulclements] IIRC ?
[Cyprochris] if i remember correctly
[paulclements] ah
cufconline> No - that's true. But the FA Vase doesnt seem to be regionalised
- either
cufconline> E.g. Reds v Sudbury
[paulclements] I think it is regional up until about the last 8
[paulclements] or 16
cufconline> Reds v Sudbury was last 16 I think
[Cyprochris] Somat ter dee with they did not know the number of non league
- teams from each area that would be in R1
[paulclements] aye....before that I would guess it was regional
[paulclements] has dave dropped off his perch
cufconline> It used to be something like 16 non league teams in R1 - 10 each
- North/South roughly
[kynson] it is a shame that there is not still the real local rivalry
- between blues and reds. i remember the comments from my predominantly reds
- supporting family when my cousins started to take me to brunton park
cufconline> Sorry 8 each that would have to be
[Cyprochris] I might write to Mellor to ask if the FA cup final could be
- regionalised to Cumbrian teams only
[paulclements] good point
[paulclements] we'd probably lose to wigton
[kynson] oh, follwing up rob's mailing, anyone any other ideas on the
- cumbrian flag?
cufconline> Actually it was 80 teams in R1 - not 64, so that would make
- about 32 non leaguers
cufconline> Freedom for Cumbria!! Start the revolution now!
cufconline> A sheep should be in it somewhere
[Cyprochris] If they made the qualifying rounds regional, they would know
- exactly in advance how many from each region would make R1
[paulclements] cumbria=england=cockneys=jellied eels
[Cyprochris] Or a fox
[kynson] but would it be cumbria? or cumberland and westmorland, letting
- "the other lot" go back to lancashire?
[Cyprochris] Scafell pike - how is that pronounced BTW
[Cyprochris] is it scaffal, or scorfell?
[kynson] I say scar fell pike
[paulclements] dunno
cufconline> Geordies would say "scor"
cufconline> Cumbrians "scar"
[Cyprochris] i would say scor too
[kynson] some locals say scaw fell
[paulclements] geordies would say.....had away an shite
cufconline> Divvunt knaa what yaa takkin aboot, marra
[kynson] kezzick and skidda, not kesWick and skiddaW
cufconline> Treppenna, not Torpenhow
[paulclements] kappa slappaz
[kynson] spatry
[paulclements] #
[paulclements] cu y
[Cyprochris] Penrith is pronounced by my mrs as Pen Rith, I would say
- Penrerth
[paulclements] I would say who cares
[kynson] I was suggesting rewriting Jerusalem so that it said "and was
- Brunton Park, builded here"
[Cyprochris] And of course, White-evvan and wookittan
cufconline> CAAAR-lisle, not the Scots "Curr-lisle"
[kynson] Carr liol
[paulclements] i would say carrrr-lyle
[Cyprochris] I don't the words of Jurusalem
[kynson] i think all three of us just said the same
[paulclements] aye
[kynson] I _will_ rewrite jerusalem for my march update.
[paulclements] 0-0
[kynson] eh?
[paulclements] 0-0
[kynson] eh??
[Cyprochris] hes taking th piss out of the tla
[paulclements] 4th bottom....
[paulclements] is anybody bothered
[kynson] Ah, I get it, sorry paul, I was being a bit slow there !-)
[paulclements] how many goals have we scored at home this season kidda
[kynson] :-(
cufconline> Stirling Albion - now then a 0-1 was it off mighty Arbroath??
[paulclements] .....it was shite.....one of our players tried to start a
- fight with the supporters at the end of the game....
[paulclements] he said he would see them outside to "sort it out".....
[PRIVATE FROM kynson] are you losing segments of the chat? I've missed two
- chunks so far in my logging.
cufconline> Did you know that Albion are the only team in Britain not to
- have drawn a home game?
[paulclements] you can read all about it on my
- website.....www.paulmclements.purplenet.co.uk
TO kynson> Got it all so far, touch wood
[paulclements] aye...we normally lose
[PRIVATE FROM kynson] ta
cufconline> Don't Albion play at Anfield?
[paulclements] used to play at Annfield....its now a housing estate...new
- ground now called Forthbank
cufconline> Ah - ha
[kynson] well, i've got to dash again. I'll catch some of youl on saturday
- for the chester commentary.
cufconline> See ya Dave
[paulclements] see you next sunday maybe.....
[kynson] bye
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[Cyprochris] Im flying over for a fortnight on 24 march
[paulclements] heres hoping we have a good week on the list with no
- in-fighting......
[paulclements] that means you chris....
[Cyprochris] Im flying via Bucharest if anybody cares
[paulclements] and martin....
[paulclements] and matthew....
[paulclements] and me.....
[Cyprochris] cheers paul, you saintly citizen
[paulclements] and several other trouble makers
[paulclements] I'm off to try out my pc gamer demo cd....see yaz later
cufconline> See ya Paul
[paulclements] bye
cufconline> Time to break off I think
[Cyprochris] tata paul
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cufconline> See you all next week
[Cyprochris] tata Al
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