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Zerogravity Adrian McGonigle, London
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The topic is: Carlisle United
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[Gibby1] Hello
cufconline> hi all
cufconline> seems very quiet on the CUFC front at the mo
[Zerogravity] Hey all
cufconline> No news on a new manager, or any new signings apart from rumours
[Gibby1] What about this Mileson geezer then?
[Zerogravity] Just having a quick look at teamtalk at the mo
cufconline> He seems to genuinely be interested - allegedly has held several
- days of talks with MK
[Gibby1] Is buying the club, or just joining the board of lunatics?
cufconline> He says he wants to buy the club
[Zerogravity] which rumours aare true though, first it was the club then it
- was knightons properties that he was interested in and not United
cufconline> All i've seen and heard is that he does want to buy the club,
- not properties
[Zerogravity] anybody know when the first game is
[Gibby1] The club and 3 quarters of the ground
cufconline> August 7 I think
[Zerogravity] kewl, not long then
cufconline> Looks like being another weak division next season
[Zerogravity] im confident of a playoff place at least :)
[Gibby1] we'll be the strongest team again then
[Zerogravity] Ive got a good feeling about this season
cufconline> We'll have our "strongest squad in seven years" next season
[Zerogravity] then I  had that last season as well :(
[Gibby1] I wish I had a good feeling about it
cufconline> I think MK should keep his mouth shut, assuming he's still in
- charge
cufconline> until any new players arrive it's impossible to say really
[Zerogravity] he has had a get out of jail card for sure
[Gibby1] Ceefax had a bit last night saying that McCall expects to hear if
- he will still have a job at the bankies next year
cufconline> He said that had we gone down, there was no way he would have
- left/quit
cufconline> Bankies have offered him a new contract
[Zerogravity] hpe the weather is better in Carlisle Alastair, pissing down
- here in the sarf
cufconline> It looks like it could rain, Ade
[Zerogravity] looks like we will find out next week
cufconline> We need somebody in quick, otherwise we will be in limbo
[Gibby1] see they're wanting to share with Gala Fairydean next year now
[Zerogravity] Top name for a club !
cufconline> Poor old Bankies - who'd want to support them at the moment?
[Gibby1] They have a decent support, but they just appear to be peeved off
- with them at the mo
[Zerogravity] sad really
cufconline> And what about Barrow? Looks like Sunday League football next
- season?
[Gibby1] They wound the old club up without thinking then didn't they
cufconline> It helps to think about those less fortunate than yourself...
[Zerogravity] Did anyone see Nick wright on Sky yesterday
[Gibby1] what, was he praising carlisle again?
cufconline> I saw his goal - quite an effort - mind you I always thought he
- was a class player
[Zerogravity] was a superb goal, funny for both of the ex blues to score
cufconline> Smartie must be laughing = premiership football next season - up
- against Jap Stam and Tony Adams
[Zerogravity] apparently they have both been very complementary about
- United, they would though wouldn't they
cufconline> Carlisle have a good reputation down the years for helping build
- players' careers
[Zerogravity] true
[Gibby1] It's good that they are doing that, it could encourage young
- players to come
[Zerogravity] true again
cufconline> Beardsley, Bowles, Hatton, McIlmoyle, Jansen, Murray, Harkness,
- now Wright and Smart
[Gibby1] Bishop as well
[Zerogravity] unreal isnt it
cufconline> Ivor Broadis - going further back and even further - Shankly
[Zerogravity] shit stabber
[Gibby1] who is a shit stabber?
[Zerogravity] bishop
[Gibby1] is he? never knew that
cufconline> allegedly no doubt
[Zerogravity] nice bloke though
cufconline> "bashing the bishop" hmmmm
[Gibby1] very nice boy!
[Zerogravity] met him last year a t west ham game, in the VIP lounge
[Zerogravity] My next door neighours dad runs Dagenham Motors, so full VIP
- treatment every week when he goes
[Gibby1] hob nobbing then?
cufconline> Mr Dagenham himself?
[Zerogravity] Sat next to Nick berry and Todd Carty, bloody hell, name
- dropper or what
cufconline> B-list celebrities
[Zerogravity] its another world
[Gibby1] who do we have as celeb fans, Lee McAlindon and Eddie Stobart!
[Zerogravity] whats this about Eddie moving away from Carlisle, is this true
cufconline> Lee Brennan, Melvyn Bragg (transferred to Arsenal), Eric
- Wallace, Dr David Clark MP
[Gibby1] I wouldn't blame him
[Zerogravity] Eric Wallace, Hmm, not much of a celeb
[Gibby1] Eric Wallace is only famous in Cumbria though
[Zerogravity] is he stil on Border TV
[Gibby1] Lee Brennan is a name changer
cufconline> He'll probably be off to the IoM for tax reasons
cufconline> Yeah, changed his name to avoid being associated with Gareth
[Zerogravity] Still a staunch United supporter though
cufconline> He wore the deckchair top on sat morning TV once
[Gibby1] See when you move away from Carlise, it feels as if you bond more
- with the club
[Zerogravity] True
[Gibby1] Everyone up here knows what team I support anyway
cufconline> Painted your house blue and white?
[Zerogravity] Funny, most people i work with and know alway look out for the
- Carlisle result,
[Gibby1] not yet
[Zerogravity] not that I stuff it down their throats every day
cufconline> Melvyn Bragg did, I believe when we got to Div One
[Zerogravity] Converting the soft southern Bas---ds
[Gibby1] fairweather supporter
cufconline> Who would? You can't be called a glory hunter
[Gibby1] Melvyn Bragg is a tosser
cufconline> At least you don't have to wear a bag over your head after what
- Jimmy G did
[Gibby1] just thought I would get that in
[Zerogravity] who needs a hair cut
cufconline> And a nose job
[Zerogravity] a good kicking will sort that out
[Gibby1] and a personality transplant
cufconline> and a transfer to Channel Five
[Gibby1] where's dave at this morning? hungover?
cufconline> Could be, maybe he's sleeping off the night before (or two
- nights before)
[Gibby1] hehe
cufconline> Apparently we had Jimmy Glass logged in last Sunday
[Gibby1] piss take anyway
cufconline> bound to be
cufconline> I reckon he won't be coming back anyway
[Gibby1] I dont think he should
cufconline> He should remain forever cast in stone as the "saviour", and
- made a freeman of the city
[Gibby1] He would be a hero until the first time he ballsed up
cufconline> That's why he should find another club nearer home -
- barnet,leyton orient, southend, bristol rovers?
[Zerogravity] Nobody would have given him a second thought had it not been
- for the goal
cufconline> we still need a keeper though - although ppl are saying we might
- go with heritage
[Gibby1] what about Tony Warner
cufconline> I looked back at my archives - he once let in four goals at BP
cufconline> that was glass, not warner
[Gibby1] heritage?
cufconline> jimmy let in four goals playing for AFC Bournemouth
[Zerogravity] one of chubby browns new jokes is, have you heard about
- Carlisle united latest signings, 11 Goalkeepers
[Gibby1] Maybe he has a soft spot for Carlisle
[Gibby1] not chubby, jimmy
[Zerogravity] :)
[Zerogravity] whos chubby jimmy
cufconline> we could do worse - look at stevo last season, mcalindon, dobie,
- finney - toothless!
[Gibby1] not chubby comma jimmy!
[Zerogravity] :)
[Gibby1] gutless more like
cufconline> Chubby Brown in goal - Jimmy Glass up front. That would be a
- start ;-)
[Zerogravity] something to work with
[Gibby1] chubby could fill the goal
cufconline> And he's known as a "blue" comic
[Gibby1] put penalty taker off with his dancing
[Zerogravity] When are the Fixtures released
[Gibby1] beginning of July ususally isn't it?
cufconline> That's when we all start thinking that we could go up this
- season
[Gibby1] I think it'll be mid table or worse again
[Zerogravity] im not so sure, dont know why
cufconline> South coast club at home to start off with - nice and easy - oh
- look! Rochdale on Boxing Day (again)
cufconline> I wonder who sets up the fixture computer?
[Gibby1] Barnet on a Tuesday night in december
[Zerogravity] Southend to start, nice 10 min away trip for me :)
cufconline> Guaranteed - Torquay away - Tuesday night
[Gibby1] Cheltenham on the weekend of the races
cufconline> They always give you "derby" games on Boxing Day
[Zerogravity] any more on this beardsley going to Torquay rumour
cufconline> not heard anything - some people were talking about going back
- to Fulham as a coach
cufconline> Or even coming here as player/manager (yawn)
[Zerogravity] Ive gotten past the stage of caring now, its obvious he doesnt
- want to come back to carlisle
[Gibby1] I think they should just kill off the link with beardo for good
cufconline> Yeah - it's like a long running soap opera that's past its
- sell-by date
[Gibby1] The Eldorado of football
cufconline> a bit like the man himself, sadly
[Zerogravity] Wherever he goes, I cant wait for our game with them
[Gibby1] the abuse he will get will be unbelievable
cufconline> No I reckon he'll still get cheers
cufconline> bronx cheers maybe, but cheers nonetheless
[Zerogravity] too true, and to be honest he cant think that he doesnt
- deserve it
cufconline> I've never seen a better player at BP
[Gibby1] I never seen him, before my time in Carlisle
cufconline> No - perhaps Duncan McKenzie (when he played here for Forest
- many years ago)
[Zerogravity] what do u mean, Paul Bannon, My hero   !!!!!!!!!!!
[Zerogravity] joke
cufconline> He scored two goals where he dribbled past the entire defence
- (not Bannon btw)
[Gibby1] What about the greatest player ever to grace the turf, Paul Gorman!
[Zerogravity] back in a sec, got to help make the bed
[Gibby1] or Mark Ogley
cufconline> John Gorman, you mean?
[Gibby1] or Kevin Rose
[Gibby1] no, Paul!
cufconline> Gary Watson - you can't beat Gary Watson
[Gibby1] remember when we sold PG, scored a hat-trick on his final game
cufconline> well you can, quite easily in fact, he beat himself enough times
cufconline> bring back PG and that jailbird Sendall!
[Gibby1] Simon Jeffells, my hero
cufconline> Big Bob Lee - now there was class
[Gibby1] Dave McKellar! the god in goal
cufconline> "Lee controls ball with foot" screamed the headlines
[Gibby1] chain smoker though
[Gibby1] Ricardo Gabbiadini, the first touch wonder!
cufconline> Perhaps we thought we were getting his brother
[Gibby1] he was gash as well
cufconline> but a little better than Ric the pig
cufconline> Wayne Entwistle - he was perhaps the biggest flop
[Gibby1] George Oghani, played as a defender for the opposition
[Gibby1] Craig Goldsmith
cufconline> He once did play left back for us - can't remember exact
- opposition
cufconline> Gary Worrall, Aidan McCaffery - gave us the searing pace of a
- Rio Ferdinand at the back
[Gibby1] We've had more crap than good players
cufconline> Which is why we spend most of our time near the bottom of the
- league, probably
[Gibby1] yup
cufconline> It makes you appreciate the Beardsleys and Jansens more
[Gibby1] even Jeff Thorpe
cufconline> Now come on
[Gibby1] remember his goals at scunny
cufconline> jeff remembers them there were his only goals (just about)
[Gibby1] flying down the left wing, cut in, curl into top corner ya
- beauty!!!!!!1
cufconline> we've got a squad full of goalscorers - prokas, thorpe,
- whitehead, clark, anthony, hopper (not!)
[Gibby1] Think that game was the beginning of the end for Simon Davey
cufconline> we need someone like conway who can "glide" in invisibly and
- score for us
[Gibby1] and be invisible for the rest of the game?
cufconline> Wouldn't bother me if he could score
[Gibby1] I think we missed a fighter in midfield
cufconline> In fact being invisible should be a distinct advantage
[Gibby1] a very distinct advantage
cufconline> But we had prokas and hopper
cufconline> we could sign lennox lewis I suppose
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[Gibby1] prokas likes fighting, but not the kind I had in mind
cufconline> Did you see Scholes yesterday,?
[Gibby1] I never seen it
[Gibby1] Did he lamp someone?
cufconline> Four crunching "tackles" one drew blood, left stud mark in
- thigh, sent off
[Gibby1] get in there
cufconline> It was a bit like Gazza when he got his injured knee
[Gibby1] Did you hear why elliot got sent off for Scotland?
cufconline> No they only showed the Faroe Islands equaliser
[Gibby1] He chinned a guy!
cufconline> Ground looked a bit like Borough Park
[Gibby1] I had a good laugh at all the jocks last night anyway
cufconline> I like Elliott - had him in my fantasy squad this season
cufconline> I think he's only quarter scots anyway
[Gibby1] like the rest of the team
cufconline> Its a bit like Ireland under Jack Charlton - Scousers,
- Londoners, Scots, Mancunians etc
[Gibby1] anyone but their own country
cufconline> When did England field a Scot?
[Gibby1] I think they done it in the 1940's in a friendly
cufconline> Perhaps - because of the war, they bent the rules
[Gibby1] or it was the other way around
cufconline> I can't remember any non-English getting into the team, unlike
- at the cricket
[Gibby1] Le Tiss, Le Saux
cufconline> I suppose they could count as foreigners
[Gibby1] nearer france than england
cufconline> Who'd want to play for Jersey? Haven't got international status,
- have they?
[Gibby1] right enough
cufconline> Obviously don't fancy garlic much
[Gibby1] Le Tissier should've been Le Pissier
cufconline> Or those daft berets, and they don;t speak the lingo (well, not
- Le Tissier I shouldn't imagine)
cufconline> Always taking it (a little like le Saux, allegedly)
[Gibby1] He doesn't speak english too good either
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[Gibby1] he might hit you for that
cufconline> like most footballers, surely
cufconline> With his handbag?
[Zerogravity] Soz, but  my wife decided to give me  a pressie whilst in was
- sat on the computer
[Zerogravity] BJ
[Gibby1] Fnar Fnar
cufconline> what was sat on the computer?
[Zerogravity] leave that to your imagination
cufconline> ooh err
[Gibby1] lowering the tone of conversation
[Zerogravity] Cant get that much lower
[Zerogravity] what is the topic now
cufconline> Queer footballers
cufconline> Only one's ever come out and he's dead
[Zerogravity] im sure there are many,
[Gibby1] I went to see the Rolling Stones on Friday, they kicked ass!
[Zerogravity] was anybody at Barnet last season, what a lot of stick their
- keeper got
cufconline> Still able to move about the stage at their age? Amazing!
[Zerogravity] think it was barnet
[Gibby1] He never stopped all night!
[Zerogravity] Saw Mike reid on friday night, Kin Nutter
cufconline> Must be on something (no change there then)
[Zerogravity] High on life !
cufconline> Which Mike Reid?
[Zerogravity] Oh pat, Oh pat, peggy darling, I really love you
[Gibby1] Pat, what have you done to me Pat
[Zerogravity] got back stage to meet hime and get a photo
cufconline> Two seconds Runaround, starting a-a-a-a-a-a-now!!!!
[Gibby1] hehe
[Zerogravity] top proggy
[Zerogravity] I am sadder than a sad thing from the planet sad
cufconline> Better than the other Mike Read
[Gibby1] which one
[Zerogravity] tosser
[Gibby1] the ref or dj
[Zerogravity] Both
cufconline> Crumbs- there's three of them now!
cufconline> DJ was a bit of a twat - ref's worse
[Gibby1] it's like the new walkers advert, 6 linekers
[Zerogravity] kewl ad
cufconline> One's enough surely
[Gibby1] I dunno, I've got the Mike Read pop quiz game
cufconline> What was that about "sad"?
[Gibby1] hey now
cufconline> I'll have to dig out my Multi Coloured Swap Shop Annual 1978
[Gibby1] now that is sad
[Zerogravity] that hurts
cufconline> Only joking - I sold it at a car boot sale for 5p
[Gibby1] bargain
[Zerogravity] Id like to swap my action man for a train set
cufconline> It was always skate boards for something
[Zerogravity] Now if we are talking class we are talking Tiswas
cufconline> Top show!
[Gibby1] never seen it, before my time probably
cufconline> Spit the dog, phantom flan flinger, flanderella
[Zerogravity] Sally James, had my first W--k over here, not literally you
- understand
cufconline> Liar
[Zerogravity] over her even
cufconline> She was always better than Maggie Philbin
[Zerogravity] she was a bit of a trout
[Gibby1] cheggars kicked ass
cufconline> More of a haddock
[Zerogravity] pisshead
cufconline> Chegwin? Seems to have come back as a "cool" person, strange
[Zerogravity] sorry
[Gibby1] nowt wrong with being a pisshead
cufconline> Alcoholic. Left his wife. Bit of a decent bloke, quite normal
- really
[Zerogravity] Keith Chegwin was never and never will be cool
[Zerogravity] good on him
cufconline> he's as cool as Bob Monkhouse
[Gibby1] cheggars is cool
[Zerogravity] thats it just kill the conversation
[Gibby1] monkhouse sux
[Gibby1] about as funny as getting a sever blow to the head
[Gibby1] severe
[Zerogravity] This Java chatroom is crap through explorer, usually use
- netscape, anyone else notice distinct delay using explorer
[Gibby1] not really
cufconline> I find it better under IE for getting transcripts
cufconline> otherwise little difference
[Zerogravity] back in sec, gonna switch
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[Gibby1] what is the difference between IE and netscape?
cufconline> Different programs from different manufacturers
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[Zerogravity] that be better
cufconline> But do the same job (well supposed to do)
[Gibby1] yeah, I know that, but how do they differ?
[Zerogravity] I normally use Netscape thru Linux, but my linux box got
- trashed in a power cut last night
cufconline> The code will all be different, but basically they both eat
- resources and are too "fat"
[Zerogravity] use Opera
[Gibby1] which is better
cufconline> I tried that but it displayed my pages all mangled
cufconline> I always say netscape
[Zerogravity] its a lot more stable now, especially with Java
cufconline> But most people use IE these days
[Zerogravity] Netscape still head and shoulders above IE
[Gibby1] might give it a try
[Zerogravity] IMHO
cufconline> Thanks to free giveaway on ISP's disks
[Zerogravity] 4.6 still a bit flakey though
cufconline> When are they bringing out 5.0?
[Zerogravity] ?
cufconline> Or should that be 2000?
[Zerogravity] got Windows 2000 and Office 2000 here
cufconline> Lotus have brought out Smartsuite Millennium, we use Smartsuite
- in the office
[Gibby1] Smartsuite is crap
[Zerogravity] We dont use any lotus products, except when we get visitors
- from the Branch in Canda, they have Notes
cufconline> It's got it's good points, although far more people use
- Microsoft - we have that, too
[Gibby1] We use office 97
[Zerogravity] I use Applixware and Staroffice in Linux
[Zerogravity] Applix is shite though
cufconline> I put this site together with a combination of Word 97, Excel
- and Lotus 1-2-3
[Gibby1] whats this Linux anyway?
[Zerogravity] a flavour of Unix
[Zerogravity] simply put
cufconline> Free to use
[Zerogravity] Yeah
[Gibby1] what does it do?
cufconline> Although you can pay for a "proper" set of disks and manuals if
- you prefer
[Gibby1] thick bugger aren't I
[Zerogravity] I run NT, 98, 2000, Linux, and Solaris, (another unix version)
cufconline> We used to have Solaris but ditched it for NT 4.0
[Zerogravity] Im an NT/Novell admin by Job, with some unix thrown in
cufconline> Ours is a small LAN with Novell 4.0 and NT 4.0 and Win95/NT
- clients
[Zerogravity] Solaris for X86 is now free as well, u just pay the $10
- shipping
[Gibby1] huh?
cufconline> sorry Novell 4.11
[Zerogravity] Got a Novell 4.11 server here at home on my little Lan with 9
- machines
cufconline> Suns used to be a bit of a nightmare to run - NT is a lot
- friendlier
[Zerogravity] Got a Sparcstation 10 as well
cufconline> Home LAN? where did you nick all the kit from?
[Gibby1] you 2 taking the piss outta me or what?
[Zerogravity] Unix is too much trouble for everyday user
[Zerogravity] sorry dude
[Zerogravity] Unix is the operating system that 75 percent of the Internet
- is run on
[Gibby1] confused one is here
cufconline> Not taking the piss - if we start to talk about internal TCP/IP
- multi-threaded memory allocation that would be taking the piss
[Zerogravity] or OSI layers
[Gibby1] duh?
cufconline> Oh, the seven-layer model? Ah what ever came of that?
[Zerogravity] Gibby will log of soon,
[Gibby1] I am gonna have to learn some more I think
cufconline> Nobody needs to know about such things to run a PC though
[Zerogravity] Linux is a cheap way of learning basic Unix
[Zerogravity] there is no need for most people to even worry about it
[Zerogravity] UNLESS your are a HACKER
[Gibby1] what do you call a three legged donkey?
[Zerogravity] go on
cufconline> Tony Adams?
[Gibby1] wonkey
[Zerogravity] both good answers
cufconline> Bad jokes now - I'll have to log off anyway
[Zerogravity] me too
[Zerogravity] got to go and buy a garden shed
[Gibby1] me three
[Zerogravity] sad life I lead
[Gibby1] I'm taking me mummy shopping
cufconline> see you all next week or whenever
[Zerogravity] see ya all
[Gibby1] okey dokey
cufconline> bye
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